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		<title>By: Dr Michael L Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Michael L Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jabez,

Thanks for the thoughtful and articulate post, which I very much appreciatie. Be assured that there was no interest in heresy hunting as much as in clarifying terms for our readers here, also recognizing that prominent, militant factions of liberation theology remain.

That being said, the approach we have to the gospel at FIRE has been holistic from day one, and our missionaries around the world have often begun their work among the hurting and the poor. So, amen to your empahsis!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jabez,</p>
<p>Thanks for the thoughtful and articulate post, which I very much appreciatie. Be assured that there was no interest in heresy hunting as much as in clarifying terms for our readers here, also recognizing that prominent, militant factions of liberation theology remain.</p>
<p>That being said, the approach we have to the gospel at FIRE has been holistic from day one, and our missionaries around the world have often begun their work among the hurting and the poor. So, amen to your empahsis!</p>
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		<title>By: Jabez</title>
		<link>http://lineoffireradio.askdrbrown.org/2008/03/01/the-state-of-the-church-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-666</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Brown,

Liberation theology seems to have evolved from its once modern extreme roots, as you accurately call them, to something else regarding locally active fellowships at this time among the cultures mentioned.  People groups in such cultures have become both weary of poverty and of militancy, where so.  Note the parenthetical disclaimer of separation from militant political intentions given in citing this operating theology as  present among many ecclesia groups in South American and Latin America.  Note too my mention of what is called liberation theology being &quot;active in fellowship,&quot; in these venues.  By definition fellowship must extend its inclusion to those addressed in the Sermon on the Plain and in other inclusive statements by Yeshua, our teacher.

In Paraguay for example, its beckoning winds for change based on what Yeshua called the weightier matters of the law played into the recent national elections because of the real human issues its scriptural basis raises with God&#039;s people, and others, where so.

The Sermon on the Plain focuses on a different need than either faith&#039;s fundamentals or any ill advised ends and means for human violence justifications (as past escribed to pre post modern liberation theology) regarding the basis of real fellowship offered to all souls in the Kingdom of God; these are basic dignity needs about which Jesus gave a similar posture and nonfundamental answers too to whether He was the One when John the Baptist&#039;s disciples came to so inquire of Him while John was stuck in prison (and feeling not liberated indeed).  These are the kind of nonfundamental religious issues which the Jerusalem council gave creedence too in not yoking the Gentiles with the ways of the traditions developed around the law of Moses.

It seems vital to your call for a holistic approach to being disciples of Yeshua to include both of these outlooks Yehusa developes on what constitutes action and fellowship in the liberating Kingdom which Yeshua ushered in.  Even in the Tanackh God mentions over and over a heart toward e poor and needy, call it a preference if you will.  Reading these passages of scripture from the mind of the Master the lens shifts to a larger picture of what constitutes the good news of the Messiah, as to its bases for inclusion, call for action, and outlook of a social as well as doctrinal responsibility of neighbor to neighbor.  Who deserves such inclusion of equal regard and promise seems to be in the words spoken and the actions advocated in these passages by Yeshua.  This seems too to represent a wind of the Spirit as to what constitutes post modern liberation theology, as is written of today even by Protestant American Missionaries to these cultures as a positive development.

In our quest for heresy hunting, and labeling of theological error may we not throw out the baby with the bathwater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Brown,</p>
<p>Liberation theology seems to have evolved from its once modern extreme roots, as you accurately call them, to something else regarding locally active fellowships at this time among the cultures mentioned.  People groups in such cultures have become both weary of poverty and of militancy, where so.  Note the parenthetical disclaimer of separation from militant political intentions given in citing this operating theology as  present among many ecclesia groups in South American and Latin America.  Note too my mention of what is called liberation theology being &#8220;active in fellowship,&#8221; in these venues.  By definition fellowship must extend its inclusion to those addressed in the Sermon on the Plain and in other inclusive statements by Yeshua, our teacher.</p>
<p>In Paraguay for example, its beckoning winds for change based on what Yeshua called the weightier matters of the law played into the recent national elections because of the real human issues its scriptural basis raises with God&#8217;s people, and others, where so.</p>
<p>The Sermon on the Plain focuses on a different need than either faith&#8217;s fundamentals or any ill advised ends and means for human violence justifications (as past escribed to pre post modern liberation theology) regarding the basis of real fellowship offered to all souls in the Kingdom of God; these are basic dignity needs about which Jesus gave a similar posture and nonfundamental answers too to whether He was the One when John the Baptist&#8217;s disciples came to so inquire of Him while John was stuck in prison (and feeling not liberated indeed).  These are the kind of nonfundamental religious issues which the Jerusalem council gave creedence too in not yoking the Gentiles with the ways of the traditions developed around the law of Moses.</p>
<p>It seems vital to your call for a holistic approach to being disciples of Yeshua to include both of these outlooks Yehusa developes on what constitutes action and fellowship in the liberating Kingdom which Yeshua ushered in.  Even in the Tanackh God mentions over and over a heart toward e poor and needy, call it a preference if you will.  Reading these passages of scripture from the mind of the Master the lens shifts to a larger picture of what constitutes the good news of the Messiah, as to its bases for inclusion, call for action, and outlook of a social as well as doctrinal responsibility of neighbor to neighbor.  Who deserves such inclusion of equal regard and promise seems to be in the words spoken and the actions advocated in these passages by Yeshua.  This seems too to represent a wind of the Spirit as to what constitutes post modern liberation theology, as is written of today even by Protestant American Missionaries to these cultures as a positive development.</p>
<p>In our quest for heresy hunting, and labeling of theological error may we not throw out the baby with the bathwater.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Michael L. Brown</title>
		<link>http://lineoffireradio.askdrbrown.org/2008/03/01/the-state-of-the-church-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-665</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Michael L. Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jabez,

Liberation theology often contains a serious mixture of truth with error, sometimes espousing violence against the government and sometimes denying fundamentals of the faith in an extreme liberalism.

So, we must recapture the holistic emphasis of the gospel without falling prey to the errors of extreme liberation theology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jabez,</p>
<p>Liberation theology often contains a serious mixture of truth with error, sometimes espousing violence against the government and sometimes denying fundamentals of the faith in an extreme liberalism.</p>
<p>So, we must recapture the holistic emphasis of the gospel without falling prey to the errors of extreme liberation theology.</p>
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		<title>By: Jabez Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jabez Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is liberation theology, as is active in fellowship in Latin and South America, but having a focus and preference for the needs of the poor to be at the very least of equal regard and promise (once such a theology is separated from militant political intentions)? What is said of these folk in the Sermon on the Plain by our Messiah?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is liberation theology, as is active in fellowship in Latin and South America, but having a focus and preference for the needs of the poor to be at the very least of equal regard and promise (once such a theology is separated from militant political intentions)? What is said of these folk in the Sermon on the Plain by our Messiah?</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Vigo</title>
		<link>http://lineoffireradio.askdrbrown.org/2008/03/01/the-state-of-the-church-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Vigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think of out poor here as financially poor, since the government takes care of their needs in that realm.  I think they need the peace of God, freedom from vices and sins, and materialism, etc.  Most of the success I&#039;ve heard of is from a one on one basis.  But Jesus is there in the soup kitchens also, and in the homeless shelters.  There are elderly people who cant cut their grass, any number of things.

But lets not forget the kids around the world, homeless orphans.  I dont know about you, but as a parent that gives me the chills to think of my little boy as an orphan on the streets.  You dont even have to go there, just find a reliable organization and make a pledge.  We use Arms of Love, specifically the one in Nicaragua.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think of out poor here as financially poor, since the government takes care of their needs in that realm.  I think they need the peace of God, freedom from vices and sins, and materialism, etc.  Most of the success I&#8217;ve heard of is from a one on one basis.  But Jesus is there in the soup kitchens also, and in the homeless shelters.  There are elderly people who cant cut their grass, any number of things.</p>
<p>But lets not forget the kids around the world, homeless orphans.  I dont know about you, but as a parent that gives me the chills to think of my little boy as an orphan on the streets.  You dont even have to go there, just find a reliable organization and make a pledge.  We use Arms of Love, specifically the one in Nicaragua.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus French</title>
		<link>http://lineoffireradio.askdrbrown.org/2008/03/01/the-state-of-the-church-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus French</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 01:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louis makes an interesting point.  I wonder, what is the best way for the Church to help the poor and needy here in America?  Is it pooling resources to give away food?  Is it getting to know the poor one on one, and inviting them into our homes?  Is it giving to charities?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louis makes an interesting point.  I wonder, what is the best way for the Church to help the poor and needy here in America?  Is it pooling resources to give away food?  Is it getting to know the poor one on one, and inviting them into our homes?  Is it giving to charities?</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Vigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis Vigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the biggest problem we have with the Church in America is that we havent really tackled the problem of the poor and oppressed.  In James it says our religion is worthless if we dont help them.  Also, consider the possibility that our current homosexual problem could stem from this.  Was it in Ezekiel 16 that states that God gave Sodom up to abominations because they did not help the poor and needy?  There are 143 million orphans in the world.  The Church could make a huge dent in that number if we so choose.  I know a pastor in the Philippines who was actually protected by Muslims because of the work he did with orphans.  Lets make the name of Jesus shine around the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the biggest problem we have with the Church in America is that we havent really tackled the problem of the poor and oppressed.  In James it says our religion is worthless if we dont help them.  Also, consider the possibility that our current homosexual problem could stem from this.  Was it in Ezekiel 16 that states that God gave Sodom up to abominations because they did not help the poor and needy?  There are 143 million orphans in the world.  The Church could make a huge dent in that number if we so choose.  I know a pastor in the Philippines who was actually protected by Muslims because of the work he did with orphans.  Lets make the name of Jesus shine around the world.</p>
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