Why the Jews?
April 11, 2008 | 15 Comments
4/12/08 Broadcast: Why the Jews?
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April 11th, 2008 @ 10:10 pm
If you want controversy, even among Christians, just mention the Jews. Some Christians believe that it is absolutely essential to stand with the Jewish people — in particular the State of Israel — claiming a biblical mandate to do so. Other Christians claim that, according to the Scriptures, God is finished with Israel as a nation, although He still loves Jews as individuals. How can such totally opposite positions claim biblical support?
But there’s not just controversy over the Jewish people wthin the Church. The controversy exists in the world even more. No people is more hated than the Jewish people, and no people seems to have more influence than the Jewish people. What is it with the Jews?
We’ll open up that subject on today’s broadcast, and whether you agree or disagree with the position I will lay out, I invite you to join in the discussion here.
Why the Jews? This is not a subject that Christians can ignore!
April 12th, 2008 @ 4:08 pm
The news (SRN) following your broadcast was interesting and relevant to the topic. 89% of American Churches support Israel, or something like hat, no rewind button on my radio unfortunately.
Thanks Dr Brown
April 14th, 2008 @ 11:16 pm
I think this is the study BiggJohn was talking about: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3531796,00.html
April 20th, 2008 @ 12:54 am
Dear Dr. Brown,
It is an alarming fact that anti-semitism is at its highest peak in the world right now probably even more tha it was just before the holocaust.
I am thankful to God that I came across your book ‘Our hands are stained with blood’ where you have shown how some of our Church fathers like John Chrysostom, Martin Luther were anti-semites.
But I believe anti-semitism is diabolic and not post Christian (as most Jews think it is) for the simple fact that devil wanted to destroy the Jewish people so that he could make God a liar. The book of Esther is clear display of anti-semitism in pre-Christian times.
I also agree with the fact that our Messiah Yeshua would not return till His own people welcome Him back, just as David refused to return as King until his own tribe which is Judah welcomed him back (2 Samuel 19).
It therefore becomes the burden of every Bible believing person to have a burden in their hearts for the salvation of the Jewish people and therefore pray for them and the peace of Jerusalem.
God bless you and your ministry richly in all your endeavors.
Bijoy Thomas.
April 22nd, 2008 @ 4:02 pm
Wouldn’t Old Testament anti-semitism be simply persecution for righteousness? I would couple OT anti-semitism with persecution of christians before I couple it with modern anti-semitism.
What do you think?
April 22nd, 2008 @ 4:57 pm
I would say no, since my forefathers were hated even when they were wicked (or, at the least, not particularly righteous), and the hatred was often over the top. I do, of course, understand your point, but according to the Torah, if we Jews were righteous, God would make us the head and not the tail, the envy of all the nations, not the reviled of all the nations.
April 23rd, 2008 @ 10:59 am
Good point!
Because during the time of David & Solomon they were respected.
May 3rd, 2008 @ 12:14 pm
You know, there’s a guy local on the radio everyday who wrote a book about the Olivet Discourse and Revelation and puts almost all of it in the category of having been fulfilled in 70 a.d., and is talking about it daily. His book seems to be catching on and Preterism is getting bigger than ever.
Funny thing is that I really can’t refute it too well.
So do you have some thoughts/ are you planning on writting or doing a teaching series any time soon to answer this book (Apocalypse Code)?
I do see these things as having been fulfilled to a large degree, however, Romans 9-11 is pretty clear about a future plan of God to re-graft His branches back into the parent stock.
Anyone, anyone?
mark jr.
May 5th, 2008 @ 12:23 am
Dear Dr. Brown,
I came across this article on Jew watch. I was shocked to read some of the statements made by some of the founding fathers of our nation.
‘ Were our Founding Fathers anti-Semites?
GEORGE WASHINGTON: They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy’s armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in… It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America. (From The Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton & Co.)
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN: I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.
In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.
Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American’s, and will not even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention. (This statement was recorded in the diary of Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.)
THOMAS JEFFERSON: Dispersed as the Jews are, they still form one nation, foreign to the land they live in. ‘
God bless you and your ministry richly.
Bijoy.
May 5th, 2008 @ 2:46 am
That actually proves the whole point of my radio show in terms of anti-Semitic lies being spread — and Jew Watch spreads a lot of them!
The Ben Franklin quote is a complete hoax, manufactured almost 150 years after his death. For more info, see http://www.adl.org/special_reports/franklin_prophecy/franklin_intro.asp.
As for Washington, the quote is also doctored; see http://www.snopes.com/quotes/thejews.asp.
For his real heart, see his letter to the Touro Synagogue in 1790 in response to the query of Moses Seixas, the warden of the synagogue, who sought assurance of religious freedom in this newly formed nation. Washington replied that his government would “give to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance.” He had other, very kind and affirming words to say about the Jewish people, and there is no evidence of anti-Semitism.
It is anti-Semites who spread these lies, so again, this proves the point I was making in my show.
May 23rd, 2008 @ 4:13 pm
Dear Dr. Brown,
I was amazed to an article in CNN which said that Sen. John McCain rejected John Hagee’s endorsement since John Hagee thinks that hilter was fulfilling God’s will by hastening the desire of the Jews to return to Israel.
I am shocked by John Hagee that how a person can even come to this conclusion especially after knowing what the Jews suffered during the holocaust.
I pray that comments like these don’t become a stumbling block for Yeshua Ha’ Mashiach’s own people who are on the verge of accepting Him as their own Messiah.
God bless you and your ministry.
Bijoy.
May 24th, 2008 @ 12:49 am
Bijoy,
Hagee is as pro-Israel (in terms of Zionism) and and as anti-Hitler as anyone I know, so I imagine the quote was taken somewhat out of context. Perhaps you can get the details?
July 16th, 2008 @ 12:27 am
There remain around the country information support groups for Israel, e.g. Stand with Us, Stand by Israel, etc. These deal with the kind of blatant misinformation and lies propogated by the enemies of God’s chosen people, i.e., those established of the chosen Nation, and those set against advancing accuracy in support of Israel because of prejudice. The support groups’ approach is to rebut the misinformation point by point, item by item in publications, journalism, editorials, speakers’ bureaus, talk programs, etc.
Sadly, within the pale of Christianity are found all kinds of positions on replacement and susessionist theology, generally stemming from the times of the histories of various denominations, movements, and religious-political histories within the formation of nations. Also, the rather ambiguous statements the Apostle Paul and the writer of Hebrews give as to offering definitions of who constitutes the Household of God, the family tree of God, and the people of God may confuse the matter. Israel is not simply the Jewish people or nation in the New Testament. A clear and concise guide to the meaning of these scriptures in light of Acts 3:21 as to Peter’s clarifying statement to the Jewish Nation needs to be presented to the Universal Church by effective authority on the matter, where sorting out the resulting confusion can happen.
September 26th, 2008 @ 7:35 pm
Dr. Brown,
I have an question about the Jewish community. I am not Jewish, I am a born Mexican raised in the United States but in my walk with God, I have learned and understood to stand alongside with Israel, but I don’t know if this might be a dumb question or not but well, okay.
In the Old Testament I know the people of Israel were divided into Judah and Israel, and we get the name, Jews from Judah but what about Israel, are they the same thing as the Jewish community?
I know this might be a confusing question but I am hungry to know the truth in which to better understand my Jewish friends!
July 16th, 2010 @ 3:51 pm
Dr. Brown, I have a question about Zionism, is it biblical?