19 Responses to “Ten Reasons Why We Must Have Revival”

1. Dr Michael Brown
   June 30th, 2008 @ 4:36 pm

   Hey folks,

   Now that the Line of Fire is going nightly, we’ll have one thread of discussion for each week, starting on a Monday, and all five shows will be posted here as well (God willing).

   That’s the plan. Join us for the ride!

2. Ryan Dube
   June 30th, 2008 @ 10:12 pm

   Hallelujah!

   Where do I sign up to be a guest? just kidding…

3. Matthew Rich
   July 3rd, 2008 @ 8:30 pm

   When approaching people on the need for revival, the topic of repentance is addressed alot. The common defensive approach to this subject is that we are righteous through Christ and those who preach a righteous lifestyle are legalistic and do not fully understand the gospel of grace. To the unsaved who recognize their need for Christ, forsaking sin and its effects seems appealing and life-giving. To the churched, forsaking sin and its effects becomes legalism and is defined as “salvation by works”. The holy reverance for God is almost gone in many churches. Dr. Brown, how do you handle such oppositiion? That is, if you have ever been confronted by someone with this similar stance against repentance in the Church.

4. Joshua Harris
   July 5th, 2008 @ 4:20 pm

   Matt,
   I may be able to answer your question.
   John the baptist prepared the way “saying, repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
   Then, with the way prepared, “Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” and again, “the time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.” Jesus said this twice, “I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
   Jesus sent out the disciples “and they went out, and preached that men should repent.” On the day of Pentecost “Peter said unto them, repent” and take note that as unpopular as a repentance message or preacher can be, three thousand Jews responded that day. Peter again preached “Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out” and another two thousand Jews were added to the number.
   Paul preached to the Athenians “the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent.” And to summarize Paul’s message throughout his ministry he preached “first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.”
   In all these instances, when repent is the command it is in the present imperative tense. That means that God commands today and for the rest of your life to repent. It is not a command like ‘take this pill” as in a one time event, it is a for the rest of your existence kind of mandate.
   Paul preached that they should do works in keeping with repentance. There is a big distinction between works of faith and works of the law, and we are instructed to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. The gospel is not an induction into a life of spiritual passivity.

   Paul dealt with legalism in writing the letter to the Galatians, and yet insisted on a dying of the works of the flesh, and a bearing of the fruit of the spirit. Was Paul being a legalistic concerning the works of the flesh he said those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom, that means for someone to continue practicing adultery, idolatry, ect, they will not inherit the kingdom of God?

   -God’s promise of mercy is conditional based on our repentance. Remission of sins was always preceded by repentance.
   -I have heard many times that repent means to change your mind. That is a cheapy, partial definition that misses the point. Repentance is turning completely around, it is surrendering ownership of yourself to God, it is changing your heart from doing what pleases you to doing what pleases God, it is changing your heart from loving what God hates to loving what God loves, and hating what God hates. It is turning from the world, the flesh and the devil and a turning to God. It is turning from a life of disobedience to a life of obedience.
   -Feeling bad is not repentance, turning is. Feelings may or may not provoke turning, but feelings of guilt or sorrow are not repentance
   -Biblical repentance always bore corresponding fruit without exception. A true turning from sin will produce the fruit of a holy life.

5. Michael
   July 8th, 2008 @ 7:35 pm

   What is happemimg with the podcast, now that the shows are nightly? Will the show continue to be put online? I am overseas, and so listen to the pocast. If they can continue, that would be great.

6. Marcus French
   July 8th, 2008 @ 9:57 pm

   Michael,

   We’ve been experiencing technical difficulties with the show’s recordings since the switch to daily. We should have it resolved shortly.

   Marcus French
   Line of Fire Moderator

7. Ewan
   July 10th, 2008 @ 7:02 am

   I noticed global warming alarmism features in the introduction to this program. I know that Mike was only referring to it as a sign of the times we are living in and that AFAIK he doesn’t actually believe in this pseudo-religious scare. We are copping the man-made global warming hype and alarmism big time over here in Australia with the believing government now threatening to destroy our economy in a futile and tokenistic effort to reduce our so-called emissions to “save the world” as our Prime Minister literally put it. And we only contribute about 1.5% of world green house gases! In any case, this is my biblical response to the AGW scare:

   Most of the apocalyptic scenarios of global climate change are predicated upon a false understanding of the history of the earth. Evolutionists have the mistaken belief that the earth is 4.5 billion years old and that it has therefore taken vast ages for the planet to have arrived at the present state of climate equilibrium. The corollary of this belief is another belief that human action in mining and burning fossil fuels will upset this fragile long established balance and lead to potential climate catastrophe.

   However, the biblical history of the planet is much different and therefore leads to different conclusions about these things. Unlike the philosophical naturalists, a biblical creationist would reasonably assume that God created a robust life-sustaining climate with built-in self regulating mechanisms, and that there is good reason to believe that the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere was much higher in the relatively recent past. According to biblical history, the fossils from which fossil fuels are derived were formed only about 4300 years ago during the Flood when vast volumes of biomatter were buried. Consequently, the volume of carbon freely circulating within the biosphere was greatly reduced which would lead to the assumption that since that time the atmosphere has contained a lower proportion of CO2 than existed in the originally created pre-Flood atmosphere.

   This last assumption fits with real observational science which has determined that human and animal life can tolerate without any deleterious effects much higher concentrations of CO2, and that plant life responds positively to increased CO2. So it would appear that life was designed for an atmosphere containing higher concentrations of CO2.

   Real observational science also demonstrates that CO2 has a minimal contribution towards the greenhouse effect due to its very small proportion in the atmosphere and the fact that the relationship between CO2 concentration and any greenhouse effect is not linear but logarithmic. In other words, the increasing greenhouse effect of increasing CO2 diminishes as the CO2 concentration increases. The only way computer climate models can conclude a run-away global warming effect from increasing CO2 is by exaggerating the positive feedback (or forcing) factors and by discounting the negative feedback factors. Such an assumption is counter-intuitive from a biblical perspective which believes climate processes to be designed rather than randomly derived. So if we discount the alarmist assumption that more CO2 equals more warming, then burning fossil fuels should be a win-win scenario.

8. Ewan
   July 11th, 2008 @ 9:58 am

   On the list of podcasts it appears that ‘part 3′ of “Ten Reasons Why We Must Have Revival” is missing.

9. Joshua Harris
   July 11th, 2008 @ 10:13 pm

   Dr Brown,
   Could you comment briefly in the podcast on the praying that preceded the great awakening of England, Wales, and colonial America, or any other great moves for that matter. I just read the Howell Harris account of the Wales awakening of the 18th century, and I have a hunch that there an undergirding praying/ prayer movement that trail blazed for the men who were greatly used in this time, but I do not thoroughly know the history. I would consider it a great favor. God Bless, josh

10. Dr Michael Brown
    July 12th, 2008 @ 8:58 pm

    Joshua,

    I would highly recommend reading the writings of James Edwin Orr on this subject. He was the foremost evangelical scholar on the history of revival, and the information he provides is second to none. I just found this link: http://campuschurch.net/download/materials/Prayer%20Brought%20Revival%20-%20J.%20Edwin%20Orr.pdf.

    Everyone should read this! And if you can find the video of his teaching on a similar subject, it’s terrific as well.

11. Joshua Harris
    July 12th, 2008 @ 10:57 pm

    Dr Brown,
    Thanks for the link. Will read! I checked for J Edwin Orr on sermonindex, and there are over 100 files on him… some videos too.

    http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=11

12. Marcus French
    July 14th, 2008 @ 8:14 am

    Ewan,

    We’ve been having technical difficulties with the podcast as we’ve switched to daily shows, so don’t be surprised if you see the podcasts for the first 2 weeks sporadically being posted. It looks like we should be good to go for weeks 3 and on though.

    Marcus French
    Line of Fire Moderator

13. Ewan
    July 16th, 2008 @ 9:18 am

    Thanks Marcus. I notice that the file sizes for these mp3 podcasts vary quite a bit from almost 50 meg down to about 10 meg. Can you keep them at the lower end of the spectrum please? Also I notice the older ones are scrolling off the page. Is there to be any archive for these?

14. Marcus French
    July 16th, 2008 @ 9:27 am

    Ewan,

    We’ve come to a compromise of around 35-45 Megabytes per file, which allows it to be in 44.1 kHz so that it can play in the Flash player we have on the site. Hope that’s okay

    As far as the older files are concerned, if you’re referring to the blog posts that contain the Flash audio player for each show, you can select the “Next Entries >>” link at the bottom of the page. If you’re referring to the Line of Fire Radio Podcast files at the right of the site, the best way to download the old shows there is to either subscribe to the show via iTunes or other podcast software, or simply press on the “XML” button at the top right of the page and go down the page until you see the files you want to download.

    Hope this helps!

15. Marcus French
    July 16th, 2008 @ 1:05 pm

    We’ll try to decrease the bitrate some more if we can, that may shave a few megabytes off the podcast file.

16. Marcus French
    July 16th, 2008 @ 11:52 pm

    After trying out different options with regard to quality, size, and usability, we’ve settled on 44.1 kHz and 64 kbps. Expect 20-30 MB files from now on with the podcast.

    Thanks,

    Marcus French
    Line of Fire Moderator

17. Ewan
    July 18th, 2008 @ 10:06 am

    OK that file size isn’t too bad. The couple that were a little over 10 MB were noticeably of lesser recording quality. I also appreciate when you have gone to the trouble to edit out the breaks in the show.

    You know what the worst thing is about going from one program per week to five? For those of us who have to listen via podcast it’s now hard to keep up!

    Regards, Ewan.

18. iseeitdifferently
    July 20th, 2008 @ 8:26 pm

    You guys can go to http://www.sermonindex.net and find many more video’s of Edwin Orr teaching on revival. He was quite the revival historian.

    mark jr.

19. iseeitdifferently
    July 20th, 2008 @ 8:28 pm

    Okay, call me Captain Observation!
    I just noticed that Joshua Harris posted that already.
    mark jr.

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