Is Sarah Palin an Esther for Our Day?
9/23/08: Is Sarah Palin an Esther for Our Day?
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Thanks Glenn. I don’t watch much video online due to speed and download limits on my internet connection.
Here you go, I hope none of these links get removed or taken down. I know that most will view these skeptically, and that is fine; but just know that the facts don’t lie, politicians do
UN & Palin:
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/2008/view/2008_09_23_CNN_pulls_TV_crew_after_Palin_bans_reporter
s_at_UN_confab_/srvc=home&position=recent
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/23/palin.foreign.policy/index.html#cnnSTCText
Palin and Road to Nowhere:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/24/palin.road.to.nowhere/index.html#cnnSTCText
VP Debate:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/27/campaign.wrap/index.html#cnnSTCText
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/22/vp-debate-made-easier-for-palin/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/us/politics/21debate.html
Palin Eloped and Conceived out of wedlock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBh0wH5kqGQ&feature=related
Just for extra on Palin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP12aNzocSc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z75QSExE0jU
Hmm, guess my other post didn’t go thru, ok well as promised, here are some links to support my claims:
UN & Palin:
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/2008/view/2008_09_23_CNN_pulls_TV_crew_after_Palin_bans_reporters_at_UN_confab_/srvc=home&position=recent
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/23/palin.foreign.policy/index.html#cnnSTCText
Is there any reason why my posts are not showing up in this particular blog?
I see that other people are able to support with links…
Ryan,
Akismet and Wordpress decide what is and is not spam, so it’s out of our control, all we can do is approve posts that were marked as spam.
Thanks,
Marcus French
Line of Fire Moderator
oh ok, my bad then; the post for 1:26pm then is a duplicate.
I thought that it was becuase I provided too many links; good info to know!
Thanks for the info Marcus!
Ryan
Ryan, thanks for the references! I will look over them in the next couple of days. I did, of course, check out the pregnancy video.
Certainly the link you provided points to premarital conception. I think the very purpose of the report is to lead the audience to that conclusion. To do this CNN poses three clues: 1) not meeting their friends at the state fair (big deal), 2) rushing to get eloped This does look poorly, but is not conclusive. Money and time constraints (like pregnancy) are two big reasons for eloping. Does not having rings mean that one is eloping due to pregnancy? No. It could indicate a lack of money or a desire to save money. Time constraints can be related to other things than pregnancy, like school or work. My [and others'] parents eloped in a rush because the groom had military orders and was shipping out in a few days. When interviewing Sarah’s father Chuck, the CNN reporter had a great opportunity to ask outright if the two were married due to pregnancy. Instead he asked if Chuck was upset about the couple eloping. Perhaps he did ask, but did not receive the answer he was looking for… either way it makes for poor investigation, but great TV. 3) Track being born 8 months after the marriage. Truly this is the big hurdle to get over. However, it is also not conclusive. The report is leading viewers without excluding all other possibilities. Though not likely, Track could be a premie (as I stated before).
A report in Slate describes viability as early as the 23rd week: http://www.slate.com/id/1060/
Planned Parenthood agrees with this view: http://www.ppacca.org/site/pp.asp?c=kuJYJeO4F&b=139571
Premature birth and labor (before the 37th week) occurs in approximately 7% of all births according to this site:
http://www.babycentre.co.uk/pregnancy/labourandbirth/labourcomplications/prematurelabour/
Did something induce an early labor?: drug reaction, vehicular accident, the low pressure from a storm front… not likely, but I still believe we haven’t seen all the facts. 55 seconds of innuendo does not make an airtight case. It is, however, enough time to cast doubt.
I find fault with the reporting for the lack of depth (or perhaps with whomever edited the clip for not showing the whole story), but with your reference I concede the high probability that you are right… that Track was conceived out of wedlock. I do not concede that it is fact without proof. Nor do I concede that such an episode destroys her credibility. I still believe that the 20 year marriage speaks for itself. I refer you back to the comments of Bill, Ewan, Marcus, and myself on Sept 25 and 26.
My apologies to the moderator for carrying this off of the topic “An Esther for our day”, but the discussion has been interesting.
OK… I’ve looked at the first set of vids and articles…
Except one, the Boston Herald link went to an error page. Ryan, could you find the article again and repost the addy?
I’m not having a prob with the “Road to Nowhere” as the plan was approved and signed before she came to office. The 400 mil bridge plan she nuked, of which 223 mil was Federal funding. 26 mil of this federal funding was used to pay for the already approved road to nowhere. She saved her taxpayers 177 mil by refusing the bridge, but what she did with the remainder of the federal funding (197 mil) I don’t know. This may have been given back or redirected into the repairs of other roads, bridges, ports, etc. It would be interesting to see where the money went. But for the moment I have no ill feelings for her judgment.
As for the VP debate agreement, again I have no issues as both parties agreed to it. The agreement on the stringent structure of the VP debate provides more open and direct debate in the Presidential debate(s). Both sides are going to jockey to put themselves on better ground… this is the nature of competition and war. Obama does better in debate on stage with large audiences. McCain does better in small town square style meetings. Both sides knew Biden to be far more experienced in foreign policy than Palin, as well as more experienced in debate, so McCain lost his strong choice in debate venue to shore up Palin. This is not unusual or dirty. This is strategy… and both sides benefit from it.
The interview blunders show her greatest weakness, that she seems ill-informed and ill-prepared to answer the questions posed to her on national economics and foreign policy. She seems to push through the interviews rather than engage them. Either she doesn’t know the material (as in the Bush Doctrine question) or doesn’t know how to elaborate on her fellow candidate’s position. Her wordy responses make her look very bad, as (at best) they give the perception of one who is dodging the questions. At the worst, she appears ignorant.
I’ll get back to you on the UN links later. It might not be until tomorrow as I have some errands to run before tonight (Erev Rosh HaShanah). It would be great to hear from the rest of the folks here too. Another set of eyes to see with can’t hurt, can it?
Thanks again, Ryan
Shanah Tova!
Folks,
Are these not relative trivialities? I would say so.
And does any of this stuff explain the media’s frenzied attack against Sarah Palin? I would say not.
So far I am in agreement with you, Dr. Brown. Nothing screams out to me that she’s the demon that she’s been described to be.
I would agree with Dr. Brown (more or less). Although, her seeming evasiveness in answering questions doesn’t sit to well with me. I’m sure it could be for various reasons though.
I nevver said she was a demon, sure you can turn a blind eye to all of her failures, but I beg the question:
Is she the best qualified to potentially be the leader of this nation?
and
Is she the best the Republican party has to offer the American people?
Ryan,
Answers to your questions, in my opinion:
Who knows
and
Who knows
I.e., How could we ever qualify these things? I mean… really…
I would assume (hopefully not incorrectly) that everyone knows (more or less) that we “ain’t got much to choose from”
. It’s not like we have much of a choice brother. Especially considering the fact that we’re a Republic – it doesn’t help give us more choices.
No matter who wins, we all lose… lol
Well the person who I would like to speak with foreign leaders (who will give them eye contact) is Barry.
But, to return to the context of the theme, I don’t think any of these candidates should be compared to these historical figures/persons.
My apologies Ryan, I did not mean to accuse you of demonizing Sarah Palin. I was writing in context to the broadcast. I’m sure you’ve heard the show and heard all of the examples the Dr. Brown shared. Apart from those, I’ve seen and heard many though various media, as well as the conversations among local folks. Are the attacks against her numerous, vehement, and “over the top”? I think so. Are the attacks in the natural or the supernatural, I don’t know. It’s shaky ground to base my opinion on feelings, but it feels supernatural to me. I think we’ll know more as the time to election day gets shorter.
But she’s not the Presidential candidate, she’s the VP candidate, and she has more experience than Obama anyhow who is the Presidential candidate. We should be thankful that such a strong pro-life and pro-family candidate is even running. McCain was not the first choice of the conservative Christian groups – that was Huckabee or Romney. McCain is considered too liberal, so it is great to have Sarah as his VP candidate. As I’ve said before, even if Sarah lacks experience she is still miles ahead of the pro-abortion, pro-same sex marriage Democratic team.
Obama is not pro-same sex marriage, he defines from his own mouth that marriage is between a male and a female. McCain’s health is in question, not because he is 73, but because he has seen the hospital too many times to he should have his own turnstile. So in the even of his death, Palin would assume his role as leader…how hard is that to understand?
Obama is not pro-same sex marriage, he defines from his own mouth that marriage is between a male and a female. McCain’s health is in question, not because he is 73, but because he has seen the hospital too many times to he should have his own turnstile. So in the even of his death, Palin would assume his role as leader…how hard is that?
Here’s an example of the type of over-the-top critisism of Sarah Palin. Tell me this isn’t supernaturally inspired.
From here:
Ewan says: As I’ve said before, even if Sarah lacks experience she is still miles ahead of the pro-abortion, pro-same sex marriage Democratic team.
I agree, and she exemplifies a motto I have used when screening new hires to projects I have worked on… “Attitude and Aptitude.” Experience is good, but a good and proper attitude, combined with an aptitude for the work to be done goes a long way toward choosing the best candidate. I think of David, who as a youth had no military training and had never worn armor. But his heart was right before God, and he had an aptitude built from years as a shepherd defending his father’s flocks. It wasn’t the most experienced warrior who killed Goliath and won the day against the Philistines… it was God working through an inexperienced youth with attitude and aptitude.
The experience issue should not matter to Obama or his supporters, since it is “Washington experience” that he has criticized in this election race, admitted that he does not have, and used as an example of why he is best to lead the cleaning of the halls of Congress… because he is not tainted by the experience of Washington’s business/politics as usual. This I feel is another over the top criticism of Palin, as the lack of experience is supposed to be admirable of Obama, but a weakness for Palin. It also shows hypocrisy in criticizing Palin as a fabricated VP candidate, chosen merely to garner votes (of women). It is the experience issue that led Obama to choose Biden, which gave him more credibility toward foreign policy, and solidified support for his candidacy.
Melanie Phillips make a few pertinent points in this article:
The double standards of American Jews
What a great job Sarah Palin did last night at the debate, she alleviated any worry I had about her ability to communicate well.
I agree. She held her own with Biden. I wonder how it will be spun, though.
Yes she did a great job. The whole debate was broadcast live here in Australia on the public TV broadcaster (ABC) which was a first for an American VP debate. Our own lefty media have been unusually quite about it which suggests to me that Sarah didn’t give them much material for them to use to beat up on her.
Oh, and check out this short YouTube video using footage from the debate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCunBErZZJE
I didn’t expect her to do a job during the debate.
Funny how Palin agreed with Biden when it came to the topic of same-sex couples…
Ryan,
How can you say that: “Obama is not pro-same sex marriage, he defines from his own mouth that marriage is between a male and a female.”?
You need to listen to the earlier show Is Obama Telling the Truth About Same-Sex Marriage?
He has defined from his own pen that he does indeed support same-sex marriage.
Here is the letter that Obama sent to the Alice B. Toklas Democratic Club:
Notice that Obama uses the phrase “full equality under the law”; says that he supports repealing DOMA (which defines marriage as between one man and one woman); is opposed to measures to amend the California Constitution to block same sex marriage (even calling them “divisive and discriminatory”); and congratulates gays for “getting married”. I mean, how much clearer does it have to be? See also this report.
Michelle Malkin has a roundup on the topic of insane leftist rage against Sarah Palin in particular and McCain-Palin in general. See it here.