September 18, 2009
September 18, 2009 | 12 Comments
Christians and the Biblical Holy Days (Part Two)
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Dr. Brown Answers Your Questions
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September 20th, 2009 @ 8:42 pm
Dr Brown:
I’m a believer, just want to know what do you think of the passage when Moses and Elijah where with the Lord and three disciples on the mountain. The point is Moses was dead, how he was there?
September 20th, 2009 @ 9:35 pm
A quote concerning celebration of the Jewish holidays from an early Christian (Catholic Saint): “The festivals of the pitiful and miserable Jews are soon to march upon us one after the other and in quick succession: the feast of Trumpets, the feast of Tabernacles, the fasts. There are many in our ranks who say they think as we do. Yet some of these are going to watch the festivals and others will join the Jews in keeping their feasts and observing their fasts. I wish to drive this perverse custom from the Church right now…If the Jewish ceremonies are venerable and great, ours are lies…Does God hate their festivals and do you share in them? He did not say this or that festival, but all of them together.” (John Chrysostom. Homily I Against the Jews I:5;VI:5;VII:2. Preached at Antioch, Syria in the Fall of 387 AD. Medieval Sourcebook: Saint John Chrysostom (c.347-407) : Eight Homilies Against the Jews. Fordham University. http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/chrysostom-jews6.html
September 20th, 2009 @ 9:40 pm
A question for Doctor Brown: Why do you refer to Rosh Hashana as the “Feast of Trumpets?” As I am sure you are well aware, the word for trumpets in hebrew is “Chatzotzroth” whereas the instrument of blowing on Rosh Hashana is clearly a shofar (rams horn).
September 21st, 2009 @ 12:55 am
Constantine helped form a wedge between the “christians” and the jews, and we are no longer living in that ignorant time, the problem is, we know better. We should try with all our might to try and unify our bretheren in Yeshua and honor him and further break away from the sinful anchors of this world by changing our lifestyle, both believers who consider themselves jews and believers who consider themselves to be gentile.
Conversion! This is a word that has plagued many. I’ll say it again, Conversion! Why do people get caught up in this word? Why is it that someone sees conversion as wicked or immoral? This is how this word is conveyed. Somehow it is understood as a loss of identity. Conversion is a good thing, conversion is a necessary process. Conversion is for everyone who wants to follow in the footsteps of Yeshua; if you are an orthodox jew, a catholic, a pagan, a gentile, etc. Conversion is needed. This is why, if Yeshua is the perfect model, then your second birth (being born from above) should force you to convert from your previous life into molding yourself in His image. The minute you accept that Yeshua is your Lord and G*d the Son; you are a sinner no more. You may backslide into sinful things, but you are a saved person who sins, and no longer a sinner. Now your sin should be apparent to you, so the penalty for sinning is greater than someone unsaved who is still a sinner.
Once truth is brought to your attention, you are therefore now responsible for it, and held accountable. I am telling you the truth! No one can enter the kingdom of God without being born again(from above). And after this birth you have a perfect human to model yourself after. The first Adam.
The conversion is to stop the ways that you are accustomed to do and follow His ways. An orthodox jew has to convert his/her practices of the feasts to incorporate the knowledge of his/her found messiah. A catholic must discard the pagan rituals which have nothing to do with what G*d had asked his people to observe. His feasts bear fruit, Satan does not want unity, it is much easier to pick believers off if he already has the ‘divide and conquer’ model put in place by us. Less work for him to do. Satan wants belivers to miss out on all of G*d’s fruit.
Now is the season to observe the festivals out of love for El Shaddai and Yeshua, not out of obligation from the law of the first covenant. If you take out the foundation that the first covenant brings, then the second covenant has nothing to stand on, it will be easy to topple over, which again is what Satan wants. You guys make yourself easy prey. How can you cleanse yourself and become a first fruit offering for when Yeshua returns in a few years? You can’t if you don’t understand His feasts, how can you know the significance of His prophetic calendar? You will never know when he will return. Therefore you will leave yourself to Satan’s 3 1/2 year wrath on all believers.
September 21st, 2009 @ 1:26 am
Oh, I forgot to answer the questions that I proposed earlier, as to Why do people fear the word Conversion.
Well here’s why:
Because it forces a person to start over. A faith in Yeshua would force a true believer to look at their foundation of faith and make some tough decisions about the way they are living out their lives. We are living in the days where G*d Himself said that veils would be lifted and we would get revelations, plural about the Word of G*d. That is why I said no longer are we living in ignorant times, but my friends, there is ignorant doctrine still being practiced all throughout G-d’s ministry.
BTW, why do people feel the need to put their names in front of the word ‘ministry’? Isn’t their only one ministry? G*d’s ministry. Everyone wants to put their names before or in place of G*d. Anyway, shalom!
September 21st, 2009 @ 1:29 am
BTW, I don’t mean to offend anyone who uses their names before ministry, it was just an observation. If anything I hope to stir up some questions in you.
September 21st, 2009 @ 9:50 pm
dear Dr. Brown,
first, thank you for your ministry. i am a gentile who loves Israel. before Jesus, i hated (all).
i am not good at Bible verses.
i want to know if you believe Job 9:8 (b) is a Messianic prophesy based on Matthew 14:25?
i enjoy your teachings and also Rabbi Nader.
thanks for your program.
Jack
September 29th, 2009 @ 9:15 pm
It is interesting, and I do not disagree, that the “shadow” of what is real is referenced by New Covenant believers from the God decreed observation practice references of the Tenach–even where given directly by Ha Shem to Israel and so where there are statements made as to their “enternal” indelible command for conformity as to such observations as the Sabbath Day (technically impossible to keep, if for no other reason than we follow a different Calendar these days, than when incorporated into Old Covenant observation, with different monthly day periods, and a different leap year structure. So, few would actually literally keep the Sabbath in any case by a different weekly referenced calendar.).
So, from a Messianic congregational practice perspective, where the external conformity to past Temple and Congregational Torah reading structure set roughtly around the Hebrew calendar usually conforms its religious community to certain rhythms, reflections, and respectful regard: what is the point where all is just a shadow of the reality of the now revealed Messiah?
Is such observation simply about preference, how it feels, what is meaningful, as to ritual, symbol, and regard? If the Jews held the Oracles of God, acknowledged by Paul of Tarsus as such, and as to his own observation of the Temple purification rituals and rites even after founding the Gentile churches around the Med. sea, is there something more than a shadow involved? Why would the Messiah, or his Father be restoring Israel, be planning to return there to set up a future government and house of Prayer for all Nations, be bothering to plan future so-called Biblical borders for Israel, be involved in construction of a future Ezkl. elaborate Temple complex, and be interested in a Restoration of all things spoken of by the Prophets of Old if all these references were only about a shadow of things to come under the liberty of Christian practice?
Why were the Hebrew nation, language, and its own archeological relics founded in the first place, and to what eschatological end? Is this all about a permissive will vanity of a jealous G-d, or is there something more about promise and principle, truth with grace, and foundational futures involved? If we remove the law, as outmoded, outdated, or only a shadow from our own references of regard, how will we know a standard of sexual purity, for example. Take Levt. 18 alone out of the sacred text and what have we as to definitions for sexual relations and their boundaries, bonds, and blessing, where so founded? Take other references as to shadowed religious practices and the assembly behaviors still replicated of engathering on at least a day of the week, altar, worship music, leadership preaching, reading from sacred texts, Sunday school, etc. go away from our regard of practice and purposed pinnacles of faith. Even the liturgies often encorporated into Christian churches of the collected Psalms of the Tenach are relevant to what is held in hearts as to fellowship–the Ecclesia–and its practice.
We like to point out that when the Lord returns, at the Trumpet of Revl. 11:15, that is referenced as to a religious festival or feast of the Tenach (OT). We like to have these shadows then set before us as present and accounted for for our future faith, as well as a present regard. The New Testament is shot through with such references, not as shadows at all! Even James, pillar of the First Church, takes the time to describe and confront what is to be held sacred in the Synagogue, as to assembly, as to what is real and what is dross. He downplays wealth, preference for the wealthy, and contrasts earthly wisdom with a Way of the wisdom from above, as revealed by Yeshua. He reiterates the heart attitude of the Ecclesia’s forebearance, in the notion of safely confessing faults one to another as being more regardful than a pious religious outward appearance.
There is something more in his understanding of the old and the new instruction and the value of both (see Mt. 13:52), as likely the head of his household after the going away of Yeshua, the eldest son therein. And he sets it straight as the one writing to the twelve tribes, then scattered abroad (not restored in the Land, as since 1917 or 1948, depending on how one looks at it). It is this, that the “precious law of liberty” is a new and living way–set in modeled example by the Messiah living the Golden Rule, of his Golden Crown’s single obligation. What is of concern, in stating that the New Covenant believer among the nations holds little from the Tenach in sacred regard or reference, is the loss of the “floors and walls” Ha Shem set around the sacred assembly in the local community.
In the so referenced local assembly one dedicates children, watches over their maturation through the steps, schooling, and manners of connection to the whole of religious community with its annual rhythms, so carrying the instruction of all ages, which leads to their declaration of adulthood when the rest of a country may be entering an ackward adolescence (without such floors and walls which the community permits). Heard and hearalded is an accompanying acceptance among the beloved to then read the Word of conduct and reflection to those gathered for Shabat, and adinsters sacred bonds of marriage, carriage of a House into the future promise so related, and annual periods of regard for this or that attribute of God, godliness, dedication, and purpose.
The world today has lost many moorings such assembly, following the calendar’s set regardful rhythmic practices, honors the Word of its conduct, by which Yeshua came to be revealed as Messiah as conducted into its community purposed presence.
September 29th, 2009 @ 9:16 pm
I find my usual typos and ommissions of proper expression in the above. I would rewrite it and repost it, if it were not a confessed fault of mine.
But I am confounded at the polarization regarded along with replacement theology, where what is useful and regarded of the Old and New Instruction (Mt. 13:52) can be reasoned away by notions of Christian liberty ignoring a related discipline founded of the religious rhythms encorporated both into Synagogue and Church calendars practice. I suggest a new church wide council, where we reconcile the differences between the old and new calendars, for the honoring of our God of Israel, and his chosen One.
October 5th, 2009 @ 4:55 am
Zech 14:16-18 “And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles”
How can this be true if G-ds people are stating that they do not need to keep the feasts of our L-rd? This is a prophetic passage showing us that His feasts are valid throughout our existance.
October 5th, 2009 @ 2:26 pm
So, we should not take lightly the written word, and ponder its meaning and possible applications: past, present, and future. I believe the Zech prophecy is given to Israel for the bleassing of the Nations when His Law becomes the future law of the planet under His rule. In the meantime the fulfillment of his calendar includes Rev. 11:15 and all that leads up to it.
We must also realize that there are many more commandments given believers in the New Testament than 613 for our keeping until that Day. After that Day what you write as to future truth and consequences seems vital to our own considered present dedication to these commandments of our Lord and Kinsman Redeemer.
We are charged to keep our lamps in balance: lit, yet trimmed. To keep our walk circumspect: awaiting as handmaidens the Lord, yet with our talk seasoned for the times and the expectancy.
October 5th, 2009 @ 5:19 pm
His festivals have not all been fulfilled; Adam and Eve took lightly the Word and look where it got them…